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totalfilm:

Tom Hardy and Benedict Cumberbatch on Marvel’s Doctor Strange shortlist
With Doctor Strange casting rumours continuing to come thick and fast, Deadline reports that Tom Hardy and Benedict Cumberbatch are two of the names on Marvel’s current shortlist…

Is Marvel even considering actors of color for this role?   Are they really going to tell the white dude travels to the Himalayas and acquires mystical powers story twice (with Iron Fist, too)?   Is every single Marvel movie going to center around a white guy?

(Extra irony that both of these actors have played whitewashed characters and furthered their careers.)

totalfilm:

Tom Hardy and Benedict Cumberbatch on Marvel’s Doctor Strange shortlist

With Doctor Strange casting rumours continuing to come thick and fast, Deadline reports that Tom Hardy and Benedict Cumberbatch are two of the names on Marvel’s current shortlist…

Is Marvel even considering actors of color for this role? Are they really going to tell the white dude travels to the Himalayas and acquires mystical powers story twice (with Iron Fist, too)? Is every single Marvel movie going to center around a white guy?

(Extra irony that both of these actors have played whitewashed characters and furthered their careers.)

    Anonymous asked
    Except Benedict Cumberbatch was fourth or fifth on the list of people to play Khan and the only reason he was asked to take the role was because they were literally running out of people. He was very hesitant to take the role.

    Answer:

    disneyvillainsforjustice:

    I’m not very invested on the subject on Cumberbatch’s casting as Khan, so I’ll let y’all do the talking. :)

    ~Cruella

    Yes, an intense casting search that stopped at the fourth or fifth candidate.

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carnivaloftherandom:

(screencaps of @bbcnews story on 12 Years A Slave winning the TIFF audience award, the linked story, the original tweet from BBCNews’ feed, highlighted by me, and Steve McQueen appears to question the BBC’s life choices in this delightful cap from the TIFF press conference.) 

When did Benedict Cumberbatch become a black man by inference? When BBC News decided that naming him the star of 12 Years A Slave was a better idea than crediting the actual star, Chiwetel Ejiofor. 

ICYMI: During the premiere/press conference, I wrote a couple of posts about the unconscious bias being displayed by the media in coverage of 12 Years A Slave (link to follow-up post/press conference transcription, etc., is at the bottom of that linked post.) 

AGAIN, LET ME EXPLAIN YOU A THING, MEDIA: If a film directed by a black man, written by a black man, and STARRING a black man wins an award and your tweet/news story does not have a picture of a black man on it and doesn’t even mention a black man other than the director until WAAAAAAY down the page, you are being racist. I don’t care if you intend to be, you are. 

Why? Because you are putting a white man who has a supporting role (and not even the big supporting slot occupied by Michael Fassbender or Sarah Paulson) ahead of the STAR OF THE FILM and its director. 

Regardless of how well-known or talented, or what kind of person that white man is, (Don’t hate me, fandom, this is on the BBC and not Benedict Cumberbatch) it does not make him the star. 

Please join me in a loooooong moment of facepalming. 

Again. 

ETA: IT GOT WORSE. GOOGLE. OH GAWD GOOGLE. Added a cap of the search result for “Author of 12 years A Slave.” Embiggen it. h/t to @laurakeet who found the result. Solomon Noethup. No. Nonono. 

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startrekintowhiteness:

acceber74:

startrekintowhiteness:

acceber74:

startrekintowhiteness:

So… we should allow racist casting because there’s been racist casting in the past? Even within this same role? That’s the argument?

I think the point that thehandsomedevilsclub is making is that the role was whitewashed from the beginning.  That people are erroneously citing Ricardo Montalban as a POC, when he’s just as much a white dude as Benedict Cumberbatch.  That Ricardo was basically in brownface in TOS.  It’s not about “allowing” or “accepting”, but about not using Ricardo Montalban as the template as if he had any right to play that role in the first place. 


But does that mean that every stage or screen adaptation of Breakfast at Tiffany’s should have a white actor in yellowface playing Mr. Yunioshi? I don’t disagree that Montalban was whitewashing as well. 
The point is that this shit was never okay and an adaptation released in 2013 should know better.
Let’s also be clear about something: if Benedict is to be believed, he wasn’t allowed to see the script and wasn’t told who he was playing before he signed on. I don’t lay any blame at his feet. This is nearly all aimed at JJ.

No, it’s doesn’t mean that at all.  I’ve seen so many people writing, “well Ricardo was a POC, granted the wrong POC, but POC nonetheless” and he was not POC at all.  
And no, it goes without saying that Mr. Yunioshi should be played by an actor of Asian descent, preferably Japanese and not for comedic purposes.
I agree with you that JJ Abrams could have found an actual POC to play the part.  Hollywood never seems to have difficulty finding POC extras to be henchmen or thugs, but the lead ambiguously motivated villain? Can’t find a one.  

Absolutely. And saying “any skin color but white will do” is racist. Casting a South-Asian man as the Mandarin isn’t necessarily “whitewashing,” obviously, but it’s still problematic. Because while casting Benedict is whitewashing, casting Ben Kingsley is tantamount to saying, “Eh, close enough.” 
That’s an excellent point — we rarely see a POC villain as a smart, capable, intellectual, motivated, tortured soul. You want brass knuckles and pit bulls and baseball bats and evil smiles? We can get a POC for that. You want intense psychology and motive? Oh dear, let’s find us an aryan.

startrekintowhiteness:

acceber74:

startrekintowhiteness:

acceber74:

startrekintowhiteness:

So… we should allow racist casting because there’s been racist casting in the past? Even within this same role? That’s the argument?

I think the point that thehandsomedevilsclub is making is that the role was whitewashed from the beginning.  That people are erroneously citing Ricardo Montalban as a POC, when he’s just as much a white dude as Benedict Cumberbatch.  That Ricardo was basically in brownface in TOS.  It’s not about “allowing” or “accepting”, but about not using Ricardo Montalban as the template as if he had any right to play that role in the first place. 

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But does that mean that every stage or screen adaptation of Breakfast at Tiffany’s should have a white actor in yellowface playing Mr. Yunioshi? I don’t disagree that Montalban was whitewashing as well. 

The point is that this shit was never okay and an adaptation released in 2013 should know better.

Let’s also be clear about something: if Benedict is to be believed, he wasn’t allowed to see the script and wasn’t told who he was playing before he signed on. I don’t lay any blame at his feet. This is nearly all aimed at JJ.

No, it’s doesn’t mean that at all.  I’ve seen so many people writing, “well Ricardo was a POC, granted the wrong POC, but POC nonetheless” and he was not POC at all.  

And no, it goes without saying that Mr. Yunioshi should be played by an actor of Asian descent, preferably Japanese and not for comedic purposes.

I agree with you that JJ Abrams could have found an actual POC to play the part.  Hollywood never seems to have difficulty finding POC extras to be henchmen or thugs, but the lead ambiguously motivated villain? Can’t find a one.  

Absolutely. And saying “any skin color but white will do” is racist. Casting a South-Asian man as the Mandarin isn’t necessarily “whitewashing,” obviously, but it’s still problematic. Because while casting Benedict is whitewashing, casting Ben Kingsley is tantamount to saying, “Eh, close enough.”

That’s an excellent point — we rarely see a POC villain as a smart, capable, intellectual, motivated, tortured soul. You want brass knuckles and pit bulls and baseball bats and evil smiles? We can get a POC for that. You want intense psychology and motive? Oh dear, let’s find us an aryan.

Reblogged from ceeturnalia  858 notes

It’s not about the actor… it’s about what the actor represents, which is the fact that at some point, the creators of this film decided that there was no brown person good enough to play a character which is a brown person.

And that’s f—- bullshit. That’s insulting to every non-white actor working on the planet, and it’s insulting to every non-white person in the potential audience. That’s it. That’s all it’s about.

By defcock: i’m going to try to keep this simple. writes “People being upset about Star Trek’s racefail has nothing to do with [Cumberbatch] as an actor or as a person. you don’t have to defend him.”
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let me make something clear

defcock:

if we’re all proved wrong and Cumberbatch is not playing Khan, that would in no way invalidate the facts that:

  • Star Trek as a franchise in general and the reboot in particular has a race problem; instances where it was progressive do not magically cancel out instances where it was/is not
  • Western entertainment media, elsewhere defined as ‘Hollywood,’ has whitewashed so many characters of color so often that it is, essentially, the default setting
  • people of color have the right to and, perhaps most importantly, are right to complain about the erasure of their identities and cultures and bodies in Hollywood 

if Cumberbatch is not playing Khan, it further does not validate the behavior of fans who used racist rhetoric in their defense of what we thought was the casting. your shitty behavior is not mitigated if it turns out that in this specific instance, whitewashing didn’t occur. your shitty behavior is still shitty racist behavior. you don’t get a pass. 

if Cumberbatch is not playing Khan, it doesn’t meant this conversation, which has been going on for over a year in just this specific instance, is over, was pointless, or was an overreaction.  

    everythingrises asked
    Thanks for your nuanced response, but Cumberbatch outweighs everything. I thought about my reaction to IM3's Mandarin, and still couldn't muster up more than mild annoyance. I just don't see how systematized racism in the US film industry is as big of a deal as POC bloggers are making it out to be. It feels belittling to explicit POC injustices and lets white people blanket dismiss all race issues to be as trivial as fanboys whining about the status of their multimillion dollar film franchis

    Answer:

    “Cumberbatch outweighs everything.”

    “…let’s white people blanket dismiss all race issues to be as trivial as fanboys whining.”

    everythingrises asked
    Sorry but Benedict Cumberbatch is totally amazing and Star Trek is a dumb action franchise now, so what's the big deal? We don't even know the new backstory for Khan, and the first film already destroyed pre-existing continuity. All this outrage when the film isn't even out yet is silly. It's not even close to a Akira or Avatar whitewash. Also, Cumberbatch! He could've played Ip Man in the Wong Kar-Wai biopic and I wouldn't have complained (maybe). Just dub the Chinese in post. CUMBERBATCH4EVER

    Answer:

    The “big deal” is:

    • That Star Trek, a franchise known for it’s progressiveness, has regressed in casting and representation to the standards from the 1960s.  Khan was a character of color.  Regardless of how Star Trek decided to cast this character ~fifty years ago, using the racist casting practices of yesteryears, there is no valid, non-discriminatory reason for the franchise to regress to that now.
    • That aside from Faran Tahir’s brief role in the first five minutes of Trek09, there are no prominent South Asian characters in this franchise, so when a character is named Khan Noonien Singh you’d hope they would be able to find an actor of South Asian descent out of all of the ones that are out there.
    • That it’s Paramount again, not feeling like they need to learn anything from whitewashing incidents like “The Last Airbender.”
    • That Benedict Cumberbatch is a white man with British and Hollywood crossover appeal; he has access to countless roles that are blocked off actors of color— including hundreds of Star Trek characters…and this just happens to be one of the most prominent characters of color at all in science fiction.  If they won’t even cast people of color for iconic bad guys…
    • That the Cumberbatchness of Benedict Cumberbatch somehow outweighs the importance of calling out discrimination.  But that’s not “silly,” to you, nah, the people who are upset about racism are the silly ones.  

    That’s why this is a big deal.

Benedict Cumberbatch is playing Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness. All that bullshit of him not being Khan and really “John Harrison” was just a cover to hide the truth from moviegoers.

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The latest rumor from Furious Fanboys based on reports from viewers from Sydney, where the film just premiered.

Star Trek — racially progressive in the 1960s.

Not so much in 2013.